Women & Guns

pax · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 296 Location: WA state

Hi Everyone,

I've been pondering something for awhile & wanted to know what you all would think.

My email box is interesting. I hear from some great people! I hear from women who are thinking about getting a gun or carrying one, or from women who want to know where they can get good firearms training.

I also hear from men who want to know how to get their wives, daughters, girlfriends, moms, and other female loved ones to take self-defense seriously, or to learn how to shoot, or just to allow guns in the house. My heart goes out to these guys, who almost to a man are really well-meaning people who just want to do the right thing by the people they love.

But.

Happened again this week, someone asked me if he should find a way to "scare" his wife into taking her personal defense more seriously. He wanted to hire some friends she wouldn't recognize to "attack" her, and then he could swoop to the rescue with his firearm, chase off the bad guys, and conclude the whole event with a lecture for her...

Are you all shaking your heads at that one?

Never mind the safety aspects, we all know that's kind of a dangerous idea.

What I'm wondering is if anyone here has had someone do something like that to them, for that purpose -- and if they did, what was your reaction?

Reply in thread or via PM -- I'll keep your name & details private.

pax,

Kathy
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Annie · Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 2234 Location: Indiana

Holy Idea of Crapitude, Batman!!
What a horrible idea!
I personally don't have experience with that situation because my husband actually LOVES me!!
But *IF* I was that woman, and *IF* that were done to me;
I'd hire a lawyer for two reasons:
1) to charge my soon to be ex with contracting a hit on me and to file assault charges on his "friends" so they could all yuk it up in a cell together (hardy har har...weren't that a fun 'un, Bubba?)
2) Complete the status of my impending divorce!
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Annie · Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 2234 Location: Indiana

P.S.
I just marched the other half in here to read this thread.
Amid the stream of expletives I got the distinct impression that from a real man's point of view, the husband in question in your email is a bona fide dumb a**. NObody should do that to ANYone for ANY "reason".
What a @#$%@#$ schmuck!!
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bluestarlizzard · Joined: 15 Jul 2007 Posts: 322 Location: c-ville VA

Kate · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 28

That is not even remotely funny, and it is extremely stupid and dangerous. If the man's friends are his friends, they'll tell him that.

His poor wife. Confused

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Tinkngator · Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 27 Location: Coral springs FL

Eeek! I see many things that could go so wrong with this "act of trying to do good".

He isn't thinking about the emotional effects of having been attacked like that. Oh yeah the hubby comes and safes the day but still she could have that ever lasting fear in her when she goes some where.
This guy should find other ways to help show her not by a mock attack. There are plenty of things around (internet, businesses, classes)...

I am with Annie on this, this guy needs his head examined fast before he gets his wife hurt.

pink_vibrations · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 132 Location: Wisconsin

pfgrone · Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 124 Location: Central Texas

Ask that looney bird if he knows what it is like to be so frightend for your life that you mess your underwear or throw up everything in your gut when its all over? That would be what his wife would be feeling. What a stupid jerk!! What he is talking about is not love; it's just a power trip. Sounds like the kind of guy that is just a step away from beating his wife to teach her a lesson. And people wonder why there is such a high divorce rate. I know I'm ranting but I don't care.
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Old Gaffer · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject:

Annie said

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Road Warrior · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 1520 Location: Michigan

Ya know, there's times like this that Keeva should let us have free reign with our adjectives, verbs and nouns. Wink

The only thing I'll add is this a-hole thinks that abuse only takes a physical form. But this is clearly mental abuse and I'd bet my next paycheck there's a whole lot more where that came from. Give her the name of a good attorney and a local support group.
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xdb3 · Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 86

When I was in grad shcoll, some of my sociology peers thought up an experiment concerning whether people would assist in helping to thwart a rape attack. Their recount of the *ss reaming that they received when they proposed what they thought was a well controlled experiment was amusing. According to them, the prof related more than one ill conceived experiment where 1) the experimenters suffered greivious bodily harm before they could convince the "subjects" of the issue or 2) strangers tried to join in the crime and it got really sticky.

The problem with staging anything, in additon to the effect on the "subject', is the unpredictable reaction of the surrounding public and how to deal with it. You really can't control that something/someone unexpected might wander into the scene.

pink_vibrations · Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 132 Location: Wisconsin

You should post this on glocktalk.com. I'm sure you'll see some definite eyes raised there. Shocked

longcolt · Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 225 Location: NW

Its always the horsing around that seems to cause the most serious accidents.

A spoof attack can result in a death or injury that no one planned on. The lady pulls out a hat pin, a high heel, a knife and someone loses an eye or their life.

Not worth the risk in my opinion, its a teenage idea at best. My suggestion is to continue to use logic and reason to convince a female to exercise caution.
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richard · Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 311 Location: Stone Mtn, Ga

If this ever makes it around to Jeff Foxworthy I'm sure his closing remarks will include ''and some alcohol WAS INVOLVED !'' I cannot imagine anyone would give such an act serious consideration. If they did they get what they deserve.