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Kramer IWB Sheepskin Holster
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BaxterTheBunny



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Kramer IWB Sheepskin Holster Reply with quote

http://www.kramerleather.com/productDetail.cfm?productID=4&categoryID=23

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I've had this holster for a week now so I thought I'd post a review. (This is the first IWB holster I've had so I can't compare it to anything else)

Pros
- Very comfortable
- Good retention
- Clips on easy
- Fits my gun w/ laser grip

Cons
- Can't re-holster w/ one hand
- Doesn't have a 'speed draw' cut out
- I would prefer the butt of the gun to be closer to my body, but this might be a plus for someone who has problems w/ the butt digging them in the ribs.

This is a handmade holster so if you wanted special things like an FBI cant I believe they would do that. I told them I had a crimson trace laser grip on my gun and they made a special note of that.

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I wear it in the 4 o'clock position and it's comfortable when sitting. I sometimes wear it at the 1 o'clock position but this is not as comfortable when sitting and is mainly when I'm walking more. But it gives me some flexibility depending on my outfit.

Hope this helps!
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Peggy



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for this review. I can't seem to find a bad review of this holster and think it will fit my needs. Darn the 6-8 week production time though!!
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Samuel



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: Kramer IWB Sheepskin Holster Reply with quote

Good review.

Did you buy this directly from their website, or did you get it at another place? If you ordered it directly, how quick did it ship and you recieve it?

The butt of the gun protruding a little bit , as you said, isn't necessarily a bad thing. Other advantages are being able to draw it quicker, not pinching or scratching your skin.
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jomoncon



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking real ard at this holster for a while now. I did order the Belt Scabbard from Kramer in mid-December and am still waiting for it. http://www.kramerleather.com/productDetail.cfm?productID=15&categoryID=22.

My concern with the Sheepskin holster is how hot it is in the summer. I live in New Orleans where it's warm 10 months of the year. I spoke with the folks at Kramer & they would not recommend it for hot weather use.
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Peggy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Kramer IWB Sheepskin Holster Reply with quote

Samuel wrote:
Good review.

Did you buy this directly from their website, or did you get it at another place? If you ordered it directly, how quick did it ship and you recieve it?

The butt of the gun protruding a little bit , as you said, isn't necessarily a bad thing. Other advantages are being able to draw it quicker, not pinching or scratching your skin.


I ordered it straight from Kramer, and got two different time frames for how long the wait will be. 4-14 weeks. lets hope it's closer to 4 weeks, but in the mean time, I get to develop my wardrobe and hit the range. next thing I need to order is a huge bunch of rounds from www.surplusammo.com

I just ordered it the day I posted, so no, haven't received it yet.

slightly OT, but Kramer pissed me off a few weeks ago. The website says they have a female paddle holster, but call for details. I called for details and was told that male paddle holsters are just as good. I asked female phone woman multiple times, different ways, for details of the female paddle holster, and kept getting told the male one is fine. ARGH@!@@@@!@!@!!!!!!!!!!!!


jomoncon, I can understand your sweatiness concern. I'm in Nebraska now, but came here from Hawaii and have lived in the southeast too, so just considering hard holster leather against sweaty skin -vs- fuzz against sweaty skin, I'm thinking the fuzz will actually be less slippery and therefore better. I'll hopefully be wearing it by July (our only month that might compare to FL) though, and I'll let you know how sweat factors in.
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Samuel



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: Kramer IWB Sheepskin Holster Reply with quote

Thanks for the information.

Peggy wrote:
slightly OT, but Kramer pissed me off a few weeks ago. The website says they have a female paddle holster, but call for details. I called for details and was told that male paddle holsters are just as good. I asked female phone woman multiple times, different ways, for details of the female paddle holster, and kept getting told the male one is fine. ARGH@!@@@@!@!@!!!!!!!!!!!!


This sounds like the male version is more profitable, and probably pushed more by the sales people due to their sales metrics (quotas / commission). Also if a person on the other end of the phone is called a 'customer service representative' may actually be a sales represenative.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the second report of a participant here successfully using this holster. After watching so many ladies struggle with male holsters at the range, and reading about the various efforts here and elsewhere to find some workable way for a lady to carry on her person, I am happy to see a way for the ladies to carry in the same position that has worked so well for me despite the differences in hip structure.
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cfm925



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used mine for 18 months and it will move around and require adjustment after sitting and it does loosen up quite a bit and the retention for holding it upside down is lost

However, it has a very quick draw and when you have to dash out of the house you can holster a gun, clip it on and go.
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AssexBala



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:50 am    Post subject: Kramer IWB Sheepskin Holster Reply with quote

Cant beat an old Kramer Its looking hot these days - I remember when you first got it. Love the Strat too - a nice pair
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MamaLiberty



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hadn't seen this thread before, so I'm glad it got bumped. I'm always interested in seeing different holsters.

Two problems I have with this one (from the picture... never held or used one). Well, three actually. The price is high too.

1. Only one clip for the belt. This would mean it was not very stable, as one poster mentioned. Would get loose. I much prefer a holster with a solid flat base and two clips for the belt.

2. Poor retention would be a deal breaker for me.

Note to the one who mentioned one handed reholster. I'm wondering what you mean by that. I'd assume you'd need two hands to reholster, just as you would to draw. One hand to move the clothing, and one to replace the gun. I'd sure love to get details of the problem you had. Do you mean that you need to actually hold the holster as well as move the clothing with the other hand? That would be a deal breaker for me as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MamaLiberty wrote:

2. Poor retention would be a deal breaker for me.well.


The retention is fine when carrying, (I could probably stand on my head and it would be fine) you just can't hold it upside down in your hand as in the photo once it's good and broken in.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cfm925 wrote:
MamaLiberty wrote:

2. Poor retention would be a deal breaker for me.well.


The retention is fine when carrying, (I could probably stand on my head and it would be fine) you just can't hold it upside down in your hand as in the photo once it's good and broken in.


Ok, that's great... but what about the one handed thing? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although I'd rather have one hand reholstering capability than not, I don't see too many non-law-enforcement contexts where this is important. If you still have a threat present, you should not be reholstering. If you don't have a threat present, you can use two hands.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillinPittsburgh wrote:
Although I'd rather have one hand reholstering capability than not, I don't see too many non-law-enforcement contexts where this is important. If you still have a threat present, you should not be reholstering. If you don't have a threat present, you can use two hands.


This is true, but it depends on WHY you need to use two hands. It is important that the muzzle of the gun never cover any part of your anatomy during draw or reholstering... including your hand.

If the top of the holster is so soft or collapsed that you must use your other hand to hold it open, it's very difficult to keep from covering at least part of the hand at some point in the operation... and this would be especially true of many CC positions where you could not actually SEE the holster well - or at all. Of course, that last makes reholstering very dangerous anyway. If you can't see it, you can't be sure the muzzle is not covering something you'd rather not destroy!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MamaLiberty wrote:
cfm925 wrote:
MamaLiberty wrote:

2. Poor retention would be a deal breaker for me.well.


The retention is fine when carrying, (I could probably stand on my head and it would be fine) you just can't hold it upside down in your hand as in the photo once it's good and broken in.


Ok, that's great... but what about the one handed thing? :)


It does take two hands to reholster. However, as stated above, if I have to pull it, it will be for a good reason and it will stay out until police arrive. The muzzle wouldn't necessarily have to cover any part of my hand the way I reholster.

This holster isn't the only one you'll ever have to buy. However, for previously stated reasons (very quick to get on) and the belt issue with some clothing, I am very glad I have it.
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